Response to the BlazBlue Debunks

 BlazBlue debunked, or is it?

Hello, Hydeing Spot here. I’ve been a part of the Death Battle community for over a year now, and if you’re familiar with me in the past, you’d know that I’ve been an advocate for BlazBlue being far stronger than what the community views it as currently. The mindset of where the series scales is in no small part to a bunch of google docs that have tried to debunk the series’ scaling and abilities from the VS Battle wiki, more specifically, this, this, this, this and this one. This entire blog will go in depth to responding to each and every point that was made against the BlazBlue series’ scaling to shed some further light into the context on why said arguments were made in the first place. I will not be directly quoting from the docs themselves and instead will be paraphrasing their arguments while bringing my own to the table, so if you want to follow along the arguments, I highly recommend reading these google docs alongside this entire response as it’ll be much clearer on the points I’m trying to tackle.


The Izanami Calc

So the first part that this blog covers is the feat izanami and requiem is capable of doing, albeit with the former struggling with the feat, and refers to the Vs battle wiki calculation where someone manages to get a far higher yield than what Izanami herself states is capable of. Going off the back and forth in regards to the members in this calc, this very easily seems like a case of "the writer just doesn't know how to do math", especially when inverse square law is the main focus of the calc which would yield a far higher result than normal. The comment about Kokonoe "coming out of nowhere and no one acknowledges it" is such a random point to use against her statements to begin with when she's one of the most intelligent characters in the franchise, with only beings like Terumi, Relius and Rachel being able to rival her smarts, so why exactly would they need to question her comment like she's lying when she's trying to warn the group about Requiem's and Izanami's overall destructive capabilities?


Ragna's Death feat

This separate doc goes to explain the nature of Ragna's existence as the Central Fiction, and how exactly it ties to the fight itself. It first talks about the scans being used on the vs battle wiki where Ragna explains to Noel how the world would be fine without her, though without a certain someone, it would end, and that person being Ragna due to him being the dream of god. It goes on a tangent on how an average viewer wouldn't get this, but this feels like extreme nit picking when both scans in conjunction with each other explains who is explaining this, as well as what it means for Ragna to be the dream of god in the first place, though he goes on to explain it in the following paragraph which makes this entire tangent feel unnecessary.


The blog talks about the scenario in Calamity Trigger with the time loops in the series and how Ragna's death is the catalyst for all the timeline resets, and finally ends with explaining that Ragna himself can't do these things on his own and needs Amaterasu and Takamagahara to reset the worlds, which first off, Takamagahara never once contributed in resetting timelines to keep Ragna alive, in Calamity trigger every time Ragna falls into the Cauldron with Nu, Takamagahara always nukes the hierarchical city with Take-Mikazuchi in order to kill Ragna, something we see for ourselves in the true ending when Ragna's saved by Noel and doesn't become a Black Beast. The only person that does this is Amaterasu herself since Ragna is her special creation. Plus even with the argument that Ragna himself can't actively do these resets willy nilly, this doesn't really matter when it comes to a website like vs battle wiki which has abilities like Type 8 Immortality, where you can be immortal through a reliance on another person, object, etc. Meaning some form of outside help that doesn't have anything to do with prep time is viable when it comes to characters like Ragna with his status as the Central Fiction unless you wanna implement limitations on what he's capable of doing.


Next on their point is the fact that Ragna's death feat isn't a destructive feat in anyway because all it does is reset the timeline, which is false when you factor in an important plot point that occurs in Xblaze, the prequel visual novel duology that takes place way before the events of the dark war. In one of the endings here, the main character Touya loses control over his powers of the Black Beast and ends up consuming everything and becoming a monster. Es kept her promise to Touya and puts him out of his misery, and when that happens, one of his childhood friends who loves him so much saw what happened and rewrote all of reality just to bring him back to life, in the sequel, we see from the main villain Sech's perspective that when he kills Touya in any of the abrupt endings, the world is being erased from existence to be reconstructed from scratch, and we even see characters like Acht and Drei talk about how they won't remember or just fade away due to being incapable of fighting off the Phenomena Intervention from the Embryo, and Sechs is capable of withstanding it thanks to his weapon Kusanagi giving him an innate resistance towards Phenomena Intervention. Knowing how Xblaze does this very similar concept across the VNs, and the fact that Ragna's literal existence is him being god's dream, yes I'd argue that Amaterasu's reset is capable of doing the exact same feat that the Embryos are able to do, especially when central fiction has Amaterasu being able to warp an infinite number of Embryos into one with its mere existence showing up in reality.


Lastly they explain how the outcome itself wouldn't really change if the timeline resets due to Ragna not remembering the events, which unless the opponent he's fighting is capable of fighting off the effects of Phenomena Intervention like how Sechs and several other characters in the series is capable of, it wouldn't be a win for either as it would just end in a stalemate since Ragna dies, but his opponent just fades away until they come back, either way it's not 100% useless as it's essentially a far more overkill version of Byleth's time rewind ability in Fire Emblem 3 Houses where they can technically die but time just rewinds back to before they die, though this time it just resets all of existence and not just rewind time, but both combatants would either be resetted or erased depending on the situation.


Immeasurable Speed

So this entire blog talks about the scene with Valkenhayn and Relius where Relius explains about the Boundary experience with the black beast, and Valkenhayn states that he transcends time and space as a result of that. The blog refutes this idea by the fact that Hakumen was incapable of moving in the Boundary, and that when folks like Ragna and Makoto go through the Boundary, it left them incapacitated. Add in the fact that Valkenhayn's statement is not supported by Relius after said claim it refutes the feat altogether.


In regards to Valkenhayn, the only reason why we shouldn't take his statement seriously is if it's contradicted in the story or someone else who's knowledgeable on the subject matter refutes his claim and corrects him, but neither scenarios happen here, especially considering this is Relius Clover we're talking about, who's intelligence rivals Terumi and Kokonoe easily in the series, there's little to no reason why we shouldn't take what Valkenhayn said seriously. Throw in the fact that there's a narrator statement in Bloodedge Experience about the Boundary transcending time and space, yeah I don't see why Valk's comment should be disregarded here unless the standards have changed to where being able to move in a realm beyond space and time just doesn't qualify for immeasurable speeds anymore.

  • “When education to have self-observation was enough, the crimson eyed master sent her to an underground room within a certain castle. To release that observation. Crimson eyed master connected Raquel's spirit to the Boundary. The Boundary is a place transcending time and space. This is the place where every single moment, every single event, every single possibility drifts. It was to let Raquel observe everything.”


In terms of what happened to Hakumen, he was in the Edge, a completely different dimension. Second off, Hakumen was wounded by Jubei during their controntation with Terumi in order to seal him away. Add onto the fact the Edge was trying to mess with Hakumen's existence for a century and coming back only at 20% power, not really surprising he didn't have the energy to move.


In regards to Makoto, she didn't jump into the Boundary and was knocked out, she was investigating the computers near the cauldron when the Prime field devices that were left there instinctively sent her to a specific timeline when her existence got yoinked out of her body by the Cauldron, and the fact she was unconscious for like 2 minutes in her reality basically shows she never jumped in the first place. So this has less to do with the character being incapable of going through the Boundary and being unconscious and more to the fact that being near any Cauldron is enough to pull your existence into the Boundary. Ragna's whole thing of being unconscious ends up being a moot point when he is capable of moving in the Boundary and reach the gates of the azure at the end of CF, which is where the deepest reaches of the Boundary is.


Next on their point is the fact that they're only able to move through time in a realm beyond time and space and is never shown to do so anywhere else in the series, which last time I checked doesn't really mean much when franchises like Bayonetta have immeasurable speed for scaling to Aesir, who just has a statement of being beyond time and space and that's it, no elaboration on if he's able to move faster through time or anything like that for this feat.. Though this point gets repeated again in the Infinite speed section which I'll get to when we get there.

Lastly the blog talks about how characters need an external device in order to move through the boundary. Factoring in the narrator's statement of the Boundary transcending time and space, which backs up what Valkenhayn has said about Relius, here's the following characters we have actual showings of being capable of moving in this realm beyond time and space with no issues or outside help whatsoever.


Given how a majority of the top tiers are capable of doing these feats, on top of the elaborations of what happened with Makoto and Hakumen, on top of the fact that there's likely way more characters I'm missing when it comes to going across the Boundary knowing how expansive the series is, this is way too consistent for the series to consider Immeasurable Speed to be far fetched for the series.


The last point they make is about acknowledging characters like Azrael, Jubei and the Prime Field Devices being capable of traversing the Boundary, but only refute it by claiming that they never actively move faster when doing it, which isn’t a refute to their feats when characters like Kokonoe and Hakumen literally bring up how impressive it is they’re able to do it in the first place, why does it need to be spelled out for us that the characters are actively moving faster when they do this when we have statements of the characters transcending space and time when moving in the Boundary, with said realm further backed up as transcending space and time in Bloodedge Experience. This is less of debunking the feats and more of just moving the goalpost when it comes to the overall feats for the series.


Infinite Speed

This section here talks about the main arguments for infinite speed for the series, that the characters are able to move across the Boundary, which is stated to be infinite in size, and that Noel's Bolverk can pierce through space.


The former's refute starts by claiming none of the characters are able to traverse a huge part of the Boundary, let alone the entire realm, which is untrue when not only is Amaterasu stated to be in the deepest parts of the Boundary, but the Murakumo lore is flat out stated that they're capable of reaching the deepest reaches of the Boundary given they're made to make contact with the master unit in the first place, something that both Es and the Origin were capable of doing. Meaning that all the Murakumo units and Es would flat out scale to this feat, and other characters like Jubei, Azrael, the Black beast and more who've stated to cross the Boundary itself to reach to whatever reality they want, something that the cast generally treats like an insane feat in the first place, so they indeed crossed either the entire Boundary, or a huge chunk of it, which would be a viable feat in the end.


Next point is a really bizarre thing to say the least. They claim that the infinite speed feats won't qualify for the versus battle wiki criteria; which is that they don't move faster than time flows, perceiving finite speed characters as frozen, performing infinite actions in a short time, or that time flows when they will it. None of these are remotely in any way shape or form a requirement for infinite speed to scale to, as the section that he links from that site is specifically talking about how fast infinite speed characters are compared to those with finite speed, and how fast immeasurable speed characters are with infinite speed characters. Not that they're a requirement, Enrico Pucci has infinite speed for being stated to have infinite speed in his ranking on top of his "accelerate time to infinity", and neither of them remotely elaborates on any of these supposed requirements like seeing folks as frozen or doing infinite actions or anything. Same with D from Vampire Hunter D as he just crossed an infinite distance to attack someone or just moved in 0 time, he doesn't have any statements of time flowing when he deems so or doing infinite actions in a finite time, but he still qualifies, so this entire section misses the point of that explanation on the vs wiki page for speed.


Next section talks about terumi being able to move in the boundary and claims that folks argued that being able to just move in the Boundary is enough for infinite speed while linking a versus wiki thread as an example, and that terumi's only able to do this in the Boundary and nowhere else, and that he gets caught off guard by Jubei and Tager who's never done this feat before. The first point took the context out with the wiki thread as the user in question was not using this as an argument for infinite speed, but immeasurable speed, and was refuting the point someone made about it being an actual ability that characters have to cross the Boundary when at no point is it ever shown or implied they need to use an ability to move in the realm to begin with. The second point of "they're only able to do this in the Boundary and nowhere else" makes zero sense when you take into account that the Boundary is the one place consistently stated to be infinite in size, something the doc itself acknowledges and doesn't even try to refute. This argument is the equivalent of saying a top tier character running across the planet in a few seconds isn't a legit feat because the story takes place in a school and he's only able to do this outside of school and nowhere inside, which is silly beyond reason. In regards to Jubei, he literally does cross the Boundary, Kokonoe herself states it, plus he's stated to be the strongest creature on the planet and is one of the Six Heroes, so him keeping up with Terumi doesn't disprove terumi's feat in the first place. As for Tager, they ignored the part where Tager literally has Celica with him, who's literally Terumi's kryptonite, so again, not an anti feat, plus with the prior feats listed above this doesn't disprove anything unless you wanna pull the same logic with other franchises and say Goku shouldn't scale to Universal cause he got shot by a laser from a fodder tier frieza soldier, or flash's infinite mass punch being as strong as a white dwarf star, and ignore the consistencies of both series that put these two characters at a higher level than normal.


Lastly with Noel's Bolverk, the blog claims that it's just spatial hax and nothing else, even on the level vs wiki claims, that the application of spatial hax being done here is not the same as normal spatial hax. Being able to ignore distance entirely to attack someone instantly is literally breaking the speed formula as it's comprised of Distance/Time, and you literally shot distance itself just to hit someone. Several other characters on the site has infinite attack speed for this reason. So by versus wiki criteria, this is still legit unless you wanna make a standard change and claim that it shouldn't scale to the attack speed, which be my guest I suppose.


Izayoi's light speed

This section talks about the Izayoi's properties of absorbing light, with kokonoe describing it as like a black hole that absorbs wavelengths and not even light itself can escape, and proceeds to claim that literally no one is capable of reacting to this light at all.


The blog claims that the Izayoi passively absorbs light, which isn't true because her bad ending in Continuum shift is literally her actively using the Izayoi's light absorption ability way too much and it essentially resulted in her death, where her canonical ending she's mostly just suffered from blindness in the end. If it was passively doing this then she should've been dead in both endings regardless if she used the izayoi or not.


The next point is the fact that the Izayoi at best only lets tsubaki shoot a slow moving projectile and that the weapon only boosts one power and strength and nothing to do with their actual speed, ignoring how the same clip they used has a prior statement of enhancing the user's abilities with the light and not just their power, add the fact that the slow projectile is something Tsubaki can literally combine with to increase in speed and power to attack someone, this extends far beyond mere strength.


Last point is how the light is used to make anti observer fields and it's used in a way that no one is able to react to, which is false when Tsubaki's Izayoi form literally fires the light against Jin in Chronophantasma and he dodges it easily. And this is treated as the izayoi's true form while the normal one Tsubaki has is a weakened version, factor in how Izayoi in gameplay has very similar drive mechanics to tsubaki with her absorbing light and having a stance mode where she uses the light she takes in to zoom around fast, fly, shoot projectiles, etc. something the cast can react to, this would 100% scale.


Side note just to add consistency here, Bang literally states he has a hidden technique that allows him to move at the speed of light, so this would be consistent with how fast the low tiers in Blazblue can be.


Higher Dimensional hax

This one is a rather short one, which is weird given how blazblue as a series is known for having cracked levels of hax for a majority of the cast. They bring up the versus wiki arguments about the Boundary being outside of reality while also ignoring the Boundary transcending time and space statement which feels weird when it's elaborated to contain all possibilities, which are alternate worlds in the series. And lastly it claims Ragna just recreated a single timeline, which is consistent with Takamagahara and amaterasu's feats of resetting the timeline, and say the nox nyctores hax would also just be Universal+ because of it transcending phenomena intervention.


I don't understand how in the hell this is a refute to Blazblue having higher dimensional scaling when they didn't address the Boundary stuff in the first place and just makes a non-sequiter point about a timeline being made. If we actually check out the thread on the versus wiki with scans in mind, it bring up the following feats of the series affecting the Boundary (something the doc doesn't remotely refute in anyway shape or form whatsoever):



Factor in how Amaterasu is deemed the true god above Takamagahara, and how it warped an infinite embryos into one when it appears in reality, and how the person with the true azure exceeds amaterasu, on top of Doomsday being something the Embryo does and is the major plot point of central fiction, this higher dimensional hax stuff would still apply, so idk why this is in anyway shape or form a debunk.


High-Godly regeneration

Here's another big one to tackle so let's get to it. The blog talks about Hakumen's time killer feat being superior to the Boundary's erasure abilities and how Ragna can negate regen (though this part isn't really relevant right now given they cover it in the negation section below). It claims that there's no evidence of actual existence erasure since all Hakumen said was that he kills Terumi's time and how it can work by cutting one's target off from being observed due to Terumi needing self observation. This is ignoring two major factors that support this being actual existence erasure: the first being prior to their fight, Hakumen verbatim states that he's gonna use the Susanoo Unit's power to erase terumi's existence completely. Second, when Hakumen lands the time killer on Terumi, we literally see Terumi vanish from existence after it hits. What's important here is that normally when characters gets beaten up in the story mode, they always show their portraits falling down with a collapsing sound effect, but with the time killer scene, not only does his portrait just vanishes but we literally hear nothing with his body falling down, plus we literally don't see Terumi whatsoever when Jin shows up to help Hakumen destroy the gigantic cauldron pillar. So yes, Hakumen verbatim stating he'd erase his existence and doing just that with the visuals being very unique compared to literally any other time someone gets destroyed in the fight would say otherwise, also even if we're to assume Hakumen just shut out the observation (which is never once stated or implied whatsoever by time killer), that's still erasing Terumi from existence as beings that aren't observed would literally cease to exist. Either way he still came back from being erased from existence no matter what you interpret the scene as.


The next point is that the Boundary being able to erase someone is unfounded and claims the statements from Jubei are too vague and can just mean being memory wiped. Ignoring how Jubei quite literally said that it's worse than death, but how does "losing everything you ever will be" somehow pertain to losing your memories when memories by default are records of past information someone experienced at some point in their life? Because "everything you ever will be" implies your future, and "everything you ever were" implies your past and you're losing all of that, hence being erased across history, but let's see what the Japanese text for this scene has to say about this statement.

  1. 同じことだ。いやもっと悪い。 境界に落とされるなど、存在そのものを抹消されるような ものではないか。

  2. Its the same. No its even worse. Getting dropped into the boundary, is something like having your existence itself being erased.


Wow, so the original japanese script just makes it very blatant that the Boundary is capable of erasing your entire existence, so the argument that this is just memory erasure/memory wiping is unfounded and fundamentally makes no sense when you look at the context of what's being said.


Next point comments about how Jubei doesn't prove being able to erase someone across time for the Boundary (which I've already explained why that's the case since memories being lost makes 0 fucking sense). But they bring up the Edge's statement and Hazama falling back into the Boundary in Central fiction and claim how both aren't legit because Hazama survives as stated by Naoto and the Edge scan has nothing to do with the Boundary. The first point doesn't disprove what Rachel said since she's still talking about what the Boundary itself can do, Naoto saying he's still alive just means the Boundary doesn't do shit to him, and given Hazama's existence is literally an azure grimoire, which is a portable gateway to the boundary, it makes sense he wouldn't be affected by this in the first place. The latter with the Edge also doesn't mean shit here when in order to get to the Boundary, you have to cross the Edge since it's stated to be between the Boundary and the normal world, so you'd have to take a realm trying to erase you from existence in order to get to the Boundary, either way this comes off as massive cherry picking.


Overall I don't think the blog gets why Time killer is upscaled from the Boundary in the first place, especially when the most basic explanation is this: Terumi can survive in the Boundary just fine and is unfazed by the realm's hazardous effects; which includes being erased from existence, and Hakumen was able to erase Terumi despite his innate resistance to erasure across history itself. His erasure abilities would have to be stronger than the Boundary's abilities if it can erase Terumi in the first place, who again isn't fazed by the Boundary at all. So this debunk falls apart the moment you look into the scenes for both the boundary statements and time killer itself.


Soul Hax/Regeneration Negation resistance.

Here the blog talks about the azure's soul hax and claims that the soul hax statement from the Azure grimoire doesn't remotely scale to what magic can do because it's just talking about the Nox Nyctores and Magic, and that the azure just remembers those wounds. This is ignoring the point how the azure grimoire is treated as the most powerful of grimoires and Ars Magus weaponry in the entire world, factor in how in the lore of Blazblue, Armagus was advanced to the point that it eventually lead to the creation of the Nox Nyctores, meaning all Nox Nyctores are classified as Armagus weapons, the Azure having very similar levels, if not greater levels of soul hax abilities than the Nox Nyctores itself isn't a ridiculous idea given how they're treated.


The next section talks about the scans used on his versus wiki profile doesn't really prove much for resistance since it just shows rachel describing the wounds, and that ragna's susceptible to these kinds of attacks. This isn't really true, especially with the Nox Nyctores wounds when Ragna's 100% fine at the end of Calamity trigger despite being wounded by Nu and her Nox Nyctores. That and Nox Nyctores wounds are treated as a serious threat in general and not just because of it being Ragna.


The next two paragraphs talk about how Ragna gets wounded by Izanami and claims how Ragna's not gonna heal the wounds easily, implying that he can still heal it, which contradicts being capable of negating forms of regeneration, but this ignores what regeneration negation is. The mere fact that someone with a healing factor is being inflicted with wounds that they either cannot heal from or have a really hard time healing from in general is what regeneration negation is, since you're messing with the target's ability to heal in the first place, either way this still counts as a form of regeneration negation.


The next two paragraphs talk about Jubei and Ragna's wounds and how they're somewhat capable of healing, but also claims that only those with the Azure is susceptible to these wounds which makes no sense at all when at no point in the games is it ever stated Jubei has an Azure grimoire with him. The fact that he's wounded by magic attacks and that it's taking a while for him to heal such a wound in the first place means that this ability isn't limited to just the Azure, it extends to any individual. Factor in the statements with Litchi where she states that Nox Nyctores wounds are a special type of wound that no normal weapon is capable of inflicting, yeah this idea that it's only for azure folks is stupid. Especially when you factor in two other points that shoot this argument in the foot. Arakune being sliced apart by Hakumen in Calamity trigger and the narrator stated that he's incapable of regenerating, and yet Arakune doesn't have an azure grimoire with him, hell his entire purpose in existence is to consume the azure, hence why he's obsessed with any character in the series that has an azure grimoire. The second one is Hazama being slashed around by Hakumen and he's completely fine despite his entire body being an Azure grimoire and yet he's never left any wounds that he can't heal from. So again this idea that it's only an azure grimoire weakness is unfounded and disproven several times by the blog's own scans with Jubei and Arakune, on top of Hazama throughout the entire series is hardly affected by any Nox Nyctores wounds and can heal them off just fine.


The next paragraph talks about how Ookami is the only nox nyctores that can negate healing factors for ragna only, which is not true when this exists for Arakune. Then claims that this doesn't extend to all Nox Nyctores which I'm confused here, because earlier in this same section the blog talks about how the nox nyctores wounds are able to fuck over Ragna and make it hard for him to heal, but at the same time they're incapable of doing just that, on top of bringing up the fact that Litchi and Kokonoe stated that he's able to heal just fine, so which one is it? Can he or can he not heal from these wounds easily? Because this section is just contradicting each other at this point. Their scan claims Bang healing from Hakumen's wound with basic medical attention when the clip in question literally said "there was a huge explosion big enough to blow up part of a mountain, and it tossed you pretty far. To be honest, we gave you pretty much every medicine we could find around here". So no this isn't basic medical attention like the blog itself likes to believe. On top of the fact that the explosion from the mountain is what severely wounded Bang, not Hakumen since they never once commented about any slash wounds he has from a Nox Nyctores.


The last section is just a case of the blog not reading the description on the versus wiki page in regards to how Nox Nyctores and Prime Field Devices are smelted. Here's the actual text on the pages in case you're curious.



The page itself never once said that it's capable of regenerating down to a conceptual level, it just said that the process of Nox Nyctores smelting and Prime Field device smelting are similar at a conceptual level, the scans itself even says that so why exactly is this post arguing that it's conceptual regen when that's not even what it says? Just comes off as strawmanning the pages for the sake of making another point to tackle against.


Time Hax resistance

Just like the Valkenhayn statement for transcending time and space, and Kokonoe's statement for Requiem's destruction, the blog brings up Jin stating that time has stopped but said that it's never brought up again (but also said that rachel says it's capable of elongating time with its presence so ok). Once again it not being brought up again is not an argument you can use to refute a statement from being used. Especially when Rachel just confirms what Jin has said to be true in the first place. By this logic, Cell's one off statement in the Manga where he has enough energy to destroy the entire solar system is only mentioned one time and is never brought up again, therefore they can't scale that high or beyond. Ignoring how we've seen weaker characters blow up planets easily and Cell eclipsing those characters with how dragon ball's power levels work, there's nothing here to suggest that Cell's lying. Same with Jin when Rachel backs him up in this scenario.


The next point brings up Nine's time freeze with Requiem and how Jubei Nu and Izanami were frozen but everyone else that remains in CF is fine. The first two being frozen, yeah they were frozen, no questions about that, but they claimed that Izanami is incapable of moving, which isn't true as that's not what she meant when she said that she "can't leave this space". Kokonoe states that the explosion when the time freeze wears off can happen practically instantaneously, and when Ragna and Noel find her, Izanami is capable of moving around and having a full on fight with Ragna here, so this is less of her being frozen in time and more just Nine sealing her away in this space, leaving her incapable of escaping, and we know that the time freeze is still active because Jubei and Nu literally get out of the time freeze way after Izanami fought Ragna and Mu-12.


The last point tries to explain that Ragna was affected by the time hax but the scans being used here doesn't make any sense here as a disproving of Ragna's resistance. For starters there isn't any time hax thing that happened with the world where Jin Ragna and Noel stayed after the fight with Nine, it's even stated in the scans posted that time flows differently from one world to another. Which is hardly different from dimensions that have different flows of time that are completely separate realities. Plus Rachel told the group about this but Ragna didn't put two and two together on what that meant while Noel and Jin did, so this is less of Ragna being affected by time hax and more just Ragna not being book smart on how different flows of time worked in the first place.


Phenomena Intervention

This blog goes to discuss Phenomena Intervention, one of the most noteworthy abilities in the series and tries to respond to every single ability that's on the versus wiki to see what's legit and what isn't, so let's get on with it.


Existence Erasure is claimed to not be combat applicable, when that's not true when the ability literally say that you're erasing one reality to replace it with another reality. Factor in how Observation works where those not being observed ceases to exist, it's 100% combat applicable as anyone with Phenomena Intervention can just choose to not observe the individual and they'd be erased.


Time hax being only a top tier ability doesn't make any sense when Kokonoe can manipulate space and time, and she's relatively a low tier observer.


BFR just talks about the mechanics of it and doesn't really refute anything.


The Statistics Amplification being only a Nox Nyctores thing is false when Hakumen being observed by Rachel made him far superior than Tager, even when the latter had Kokonoe's observation.


The Absorption thing doesn't follow when Amaterasu forced the embryos to absorb into one, and that the Embryo's main form of power is Phenomena Intervention, nothing about this is remotely hinted at to be an Embryo only thing. Also it didn't just absorb the outside world, it absorbed all possibilities, further backed up by Kokonoe saying how all possibilities are wiped by the embryo, and yes Possibilities and alternate realities are used interchangeably in the series.


Causality hax is refuted by the same old "it's only done once" on top of it being not that impressive which isn't the case when Phenomena and Causality are used interchangeably in the series. And Phenomena intervention is the act of interfering with events and rewriting what happened in the first place.


The Non Physical interaction part is refuting the fact that Ragna isn't being erased by amaterasu and that Ragna turns down Amane's offer of observing him to stay existing, the former is just flat out wrong when Ragna literally commands the Master Unit to erase him from existence. The latter doesn't refute anything because Amane's never once implied that he cannot do it. Plus this doesn't even address the Xblaze scans about controlling beings that don't exist and exist, which is very clear cut non-physical interaction when you're interacting with nothingness there.


Resurrection and Regen I've already covered that so no need to repeat myself.


Concept hax is refuted by the fact this is a Noel thing, and that the Embryo didn't manipulate the concept of world against amaterasu, the former is fine given how it's not elaborated, but the latter is just wrong on so many levels given trinity literally spells out for us that they're using the concept as a prison to trap Amaterasu. The fact that the Embryo brought the Master Unit to their reality to keep it stuck there so Doomsday can happen is proof enough that what Trinity said about using the concept as a prison, it's possible to trap it.


The Quantum hax refute is claiming Kokonoe can't do it on her own, which first off, no shit she's a weak observer, she needs help with this all the time, hence why she uses devices for her observation. Everyone else that can do this doesn't need help when they're more experienced with this than Kokonoe is.


Power Nullification is also refuted by the same statement of "Amane offered but Ragna refused". Again that doesn't debunk what Amane claims he can do. Actually prove that he cannot slow down the black beast transformation with his observation because it's still a valid ability.


Pocket reality only gets commented on by the fact Rachel just sends someone in to fight Noel, which again doesn't disprove shit that it's still an ability for Phenonema Intervention, especially when Phantom Fields exist.


The Paralysis inducement I'm actually fine with this given it never really comments that ragna couldn't move because of PI so this wouldn't really be a PI ability to begin with.


Memory Hax is refuted by claiming Es is only talking about Xblaze's Embryo, something she herself gets at the end of the story and can still use PI against others in the main timeline so this point is irrelevant. The next point is how memory wipes only happen as a result of a timeline reset and not actively messing with the memories, which is false when Kokonoe flat out comments that her memory is rewritten and not just the timeline being reset, where compared to Tager he suffered a complete reset, so yes phenomena intervention actively messes with one's memories, and the fact the blog admits the embryo in blazblue rewrote everyone's memories just makes this refute pointless.


Empathic hax is refuted by just explaining Jin and Ragna's plan, however this is ignoring how Terumi's capable of manipulating emotions through Phenomeno Intervention, which again, don't really see how this is a debunk.


Law hax yeah you can argue that this isn't an ability if you ignore that Nine's stuck in Nobody's Phantom field and she has to do her minigame to progress, plus the azure can control the fundamental laws of reality. And folks with the azure's power can utilize phenomena interventions so this ability is still legit.


Info hax being only by the embryo makes no sense when takamagahara can do the same thing, and Takamagahara compared to the rest of the gods aren't that impressive, so it can extend to more than just one character.


Data hax being only for Amaterasu is false when Izanami and Takamagahara are doing the same thing, so again, not tied to just one person.


Sealing being only a Blazblue embryo thing is false when Izanami, Noel and Amaterasu themselves can control the embryo in the first place, also this flies in the face of the concept hax refute as over there they claimed it's not being used to manipulate anything to seal amaterasu, but now it is, so being really inconsistent here.


Fate hax is being refuted by it being flowery language, and Hinata needing the embryo to do this. The first point being stupid when he's talking about beings outside of Logic, and beings outside of Logic are outside of Phenomena Intervention. As for the Hinata scan, wow, she needs the power of Phenomena Intervention, in order to do Phenomena Intervention in the first place, totally a great refute here and doesn't feel like a waste of space.


The Mindhax refute is weird because they said that the T-System in Xblaze needs the embryo's power to do this, while also saying this is only a T-system thing... If it needs Phenomena Intervention to do it, that means Phenomena Intervention can mind hax folks, that's not rocket science.


Precognition is being refuted by saying this is only a T-system thing, which no it's not, the whole point of Phenomena Intervention is you can see incoming possibilities and manipulate it based on what events happen and choose what happens in the end. The fact that T-system still needs the embryo's power to do this in the first place just further backs up the fact that it's a PI ability in general.


Possession gets refuted by the fact that Rachel resists it, only to bring up the fact that Rachel does let Raquel possess her in the end, so again what does this refute?


Spatial hax being only an Amaterasu and Takamagahara thing is just wrong when Kokonoe warps space and time all the time. Go back to my time hax point for the clip.


Duplication gets refuted by the fact that Hinata needed the Embryo to do this, which is again stupid when you realize the Embryo's power is Phenomena Intervention itself, plus characters like Rachel are able to duplicate others like Noel through her Observation so this isn’t exclusive to an Embryo thing.


Creation's refute is ignoring how Hinata is resetting the timeline in the first place. She literally has all of existence be wiped away and everything is being recreated from scratch. So this refute just falls on its face.


Information Analysis just said that it's not combat applicable without any proof to suggest otherwise, especially knowing how characters have used phenomena intervention in fights before.


Illusion Creation and Power Mimicry being only a top tier thing is false when Kokonoe did this with Celica and herself, again, low tier observer.


Telepathy is just the same as info analysis, which again doesn't refute anything here.


Body Puppetry being refuted by the fact it's not clear on what happens, sure, but Kokonoe literally controlled Nirvana's movements with Phenomena Intervention despite Relius stated that it cannot move. So this ability is valid.


Soul Manipulation For celica I'm fine with since it could just be a repeat of what Kokonoe did with Lambda, though this post does agree it's soul hax so let's move on.


Time travel I'm fine with here since this is just Rachel needing to use the Boundary to do this in the first place, though characters that have access to the cauldron easily or can warp there easily wouldn't have to worry about this.


Power of Order

This separate blog tries to explain the Power of Order in the series. It goes over the basics like how with how big of a threat one being is to the world, the power of order grows in response to maintain balance and save the world, and talks about the resistances the power of order grants. The blog then explains that Jin never uses the Power of Order aside from like two times, one against Hazama in Continuum Shift and the other was against Susanoo, and claimed that it never gave Jin the power amp that he needed.


The first one is ignoring the context that not only was Jin at his limit, but he didn't learn to master the Power of Order at all in that scenario, and it kicked in by instinct to help him parry an attack that he otherwise wouldn't have been capable of doing. The fact that he even kept up with Hazama, who's vastly stronger than Ragna at this point while wounded, should tell you how useful the power of order is.


The Susanoo point is also ignoring one of Hazama's endings where Terumi literally observed the Power of Order back in Continuum Shift, and Kokonoe elaborates to Jin that because Terumi observed his power of order, he's capable of being able to counteract it, plus Susanoo in this state absorbed Noel vermillion, the successor of the azure who's capable of calming down the power of order. Combine those two together, and no shit did Jin get stomped despite having the power of order cause Susanoo has two hard counters against Jin in that fight.


The last point is just saying how Jin's the only onewho's capable of doing this onscreen and ignores Celica and Hakumen despite the Power of Order being used to fight off Phenomena Intervention from the Embryo, and once again says that Izayoi and Makoto having the power of order is mentioned one time and is never brought up again. I've already explained why "it's not brought up again" isn't an argument and how you need to explain why they're wrong on what those characters have, so this is just again cherry picking on what counts despite reliable sources of information telling us otherwise.


Ragna and Hazama's perception hax

This here I can agree with given the explanation, but given the azure grimoires both characters have are literal cauldrons, which can drag anyone near it to the boundary or infect it with the boundary as we've seen with arakune, they'd still have this ability due to inflicting boundary sickness onto their opponents and messing with their senses as a result of said sickness.


Tager and Kokonoe's matter manipulation

What exactly is this supposed to debunk? She still controls photons with the IDEA engine and needing it to be used on screen is unnecessary when this is again, a statement from a reliable source of information, feels like a common trend with this debunk that reliable source of information isn't enough and that they need to be spoon fed every single statement with visuals.


Chronophantasma's incorporeality

Why exactly is this flowery language when Izanami's stating a fact about Celica's existence? An apparition is literally defined as a ghost or ghostlike image of a person, and given how Chronophantasmas literally mean "Phantoms of Time" and how they're described as beings that don't exist in reality, I don't see why this is flowery language given what we know about Chronophantasmas.


Murakumo's reactive evolution

I seriously have to question if the person who made this blog actually read the statement or paid attention to the scene. Relius' failsafe was overwritten by Lambda, and Relius comments how she's literally evolving as an explanation for how she's capable of doing that, saying that she didn't adapt whatsoever when Relius spells it out for us that's what she did is disingenuous as hell.


Boundary chaos manipulation

This whole argument stems from the fact that we have no further evidence that the Boundary can actually control chaos because flowery language, which ignores how Xblaze itself expands upon this and how the Black beast is a god of chaos/embodies chaos, plus this statement from Phase shift that talks about the Black Beast's nature.


  • ...The Black Beast. It is a monster born from the Boundary... no, it is the Boundary itself. It is not something a man should associate with. Humanity is still immature. Although their immaturity was the reason for their curiosity, a contact with the Boundary must not happen.


Throw in how Izanami herself is the goddess of death in the series and is treated as literal death due to her being unable to die as well as her controlling death itself with her gameplay, saying the Boundary can control chaos isn't out of left field to scale.


Ragna Abilities

The fear hax refute once again doesn't make any sense because in the last few panels, we literally see Mai notice Ragna and question if she recognizes him, only to feel something weighing her down and questioning what exactly she felt there. Using the remix heart scene and the next scene when they're talking also makes no sense when Ragna's helping her out in both scenarios, but with this scene he's trying to kill Bell in this scene, and Mai's in her way so he's making her back off with his presence.


the Intangibility stuff I'm fine with, though given that he exists outside of logic at this point and time it hardly matters much.


The power null resistance is again a nothing burger when it just said "he can do it with the IDEA engine", the thing that's been on his arm since the end of continuum shift, meaning he'd still resist power nulling here. Plus even with Celica's presence he's still able to activate it on his own and in the following cutscene he's capable of using both arms and eyes after powering down the azure, either way he has ways to resist power nullification.


The memory hax resistance refute is about as pointless as it was with the speed argument when again, Ragna traversed the boundary to reach the gates and is fine the entire way through in central fiction, so you'd have to be using a weaker Ragna at that point to argue he wouldn't scale to this.


The scene being in an alternate ending, making it not canon isn't an argument when all story paths are canon due to being in alternate realities. Hell every single ending ends with "one of the many possibilities in the Continuum Shift", meaning it's canon to the overall story when it actually exists as an alternate reality.


Jin Abilities

The unconventional time resistance being outside help isn't true when it's a result of Jin's status as the Black Beast's enemy, which is tied to how the Power of Order makes Jin treat the black beast as an enemy of the world, plus there's no evidence of Takamagahara doing this in the main games, and using Alter memory is baffling due to not only admitting that it's not canon, but the fact that ragna's gravity resistance is being disregarded here because it's not canon. So make up your mind, either non canon materials cannot be used or they can.


The yukianesa's life hax debunk makes no sense for it to be flowery language when Noel's worried for Jin's life and tells Bang that they need to break him out of the ice prison because of its ability to erode life away. As for the remix heart cast eating the ice, that doesn't refute it being able to erode life, that's just resistance to life manipulation for the cast since they can eat a nox nyctores ice without any ill effects.


Noel's Abilities

Arguably the biggest thing to tackle here for the debunk, Noel's Immortality. Now the text starts off by claiming the evidence is shaky, taking things out of context, or just flat out lies, which given how a lot of the arguments here revolve around all of these things is just ironic in of itself.


The next three paragraphs talk about the Life Link and its properties with the whole "kill the two folks at the same time for them to actually die" mechanic, and how there's a weakness with this in the fact that the revival is not an instant revive and that it took Hazama several minutes to regenerate from his throat being ripped apart, and Nu-13 took a month to regenerate between Calamity Trigger and Chronophantasma, therefore it's not a useful immortality tool, but ironically this is taking many things out of context for the sake of claiming that it's a weakness. For starters Hazama during Relius' arcade mode already had his confrontation with Ragna in the true ending on top of stating that he's at the cauldron by now, and if you look at the true ending in Ragna's perspective, after the fight with Terumi he just saves Rachel, has a small talk with her and goes straight to the Cauldron to save Noel. So little to no distractions, and after a full on fight with Relius, he helps Terumi out by abusing the life link mechanic and killing Terumi, which he literally takes that advantage in the microseconds he had to outsmart Takamagahara, and after he's done with that, he immediately heads back with no injury. This is also ignoring how at this point in time, Hazama and Terumi are one and the same so they're both able to show up just fine here. The Nu-13 scan is ignoring so much context here it's not even a joke. First off she fell into the Boundary which as established above can erase your entire existence, this isn't a normal wound like someone's throat being ripped open, second off Kokonoe took Nu-13's soul and implanted it onto Lambda, so the entire time in Continuum Shift, Nu didn't regenerate from the life link because she was literally inside Lambda the entire time, and if you think I'm lying about this, look at the true Ending where Lambda literally refers to herself as Nu, so no the time between CT and CS does not count when Kokonoe put her in another body to begin with. Next up literally at the end of the entire CS story after all of the fighting was done, Relius and Hazama comments on how Nu's able to reconstruct herself through sheer force of will, this is shortly after Lambda died so she has no body to return to, and again this is in the Boundary, which can erase one's existence. Lastly, the fact it took her one month to come back is also not true as that ignores what Nu-13 was doing in Chronophantasma. She was inside the Boundary going through test experiments with Hazama to refine her abilities as the sword of Izanami, and even tries to have her absorb Mu-12, but only got stopped because Rachel interfered, and Hazama comments on how he needs to fuse them in the present and she just comes back to the main reality. So no she didn't take a month to regenerate when she was doing this before she even runs into Ragna in Chronophantasma given how she's been giddily wanting to see Ragna again. That's a massive assumption to make that she only got done reconstructing in a month.


The next point talks about how Noel's able to tank time killer and refutes this by saying it never happened given he has to yell out the attack name in order to do it, but this was never stated to be a rule for Hakumen's moves, especially when he can do empty sky form moves without yelling the attack name.


The point after that refers to Hakumen using time killer on Izanami, but the blog shrugs it off as it's just referring to Ookami with the susanoo unit, which no this doesn't refute what Izanami said. Plus look at the scene itself, Hakumen literally didn't need to do a speech or yell out Empty Sky Form Time Killer like he does with terumi, he just swings at Izanami and she talks about his ability to kill time being useless against her, so again more proof that this argument that Hakumen needs to yell the attack name is unfounded. The next point talks about Relius' clone being threatened by time killer but shrugs it off by saying it's never done, which Relius literally said it himself that it's useless on him since Hakumen would be attacking a clone of Relius, not the real Relius, so no shit it he didn't use it on him when he can make another one easily.


The final points against this is that Hakumen just hit Noel with a generic sword slash, he needs prep time to do this and against Terumi he needed him paralyzed in order to land it, and how it doesn't turn white or does the speech when Hakumen slashes izanami, meaning that she never used time killer on her at all. I'll go backwards since the first needs more explanation. The idea that the background needs to turn white and he needs to say the name is not an argument when Izanami still comments about his ability to kill time itself after he swings at her, meaning that extra flair was just for showing off and not an actual requirement. By that logic that's saying that characters don't shake the entire planet in dragon ball when they go super saiyan contradicts them transforming because we see the sky get dark and lightning strikes around, ignoring how the ability works in the first place. The point with Terumi completely ignores the fact that Terumi is the original Susanoo Unit. Out of all the characters in the franchise, he knows more about the Susanoo unit's power more than anyone else when it's his body in the first place. So no shit he wasn't able to land it on him in the first place when he knows what time killer can do and he's trying his best to not get hit by it. Last but not least the attack used by Noel is a generic sword slash, well guess what, Hakumen cutting through time itself is treated as a generic sword slash, which again, no long winded prep time needed or anything, he just pulls the sword out, cuts through time to see a reality where he lost to arakune, and comments about how he didn't lose his edge when it comes to cutting time itself. But more importantly, why the fuck would he give up without using time killer on Noel when the entire context of that fight is Hakumen is trying to kill Noel to stop izanami due to their life link? Hakumen rarely if ever gives up on killing someone, especially when it comes to maintaining order in the world, and him landing that attack, Noel getting up surprised that she's alive, and he comments that he cannot kill her and that he needs to collect the immortal breaker to do so doesn't scream "Oh I can't land my most overpowered ability on you", especially when at no point does Hakumen mention landing the time killer is a pain in the ass to do, use deductive reasoning, and the fact we literally see in both Continuum shift and chronophantasma him using his time cutting/killing powers on someone or something, he very clearly did it. Even if you want to say he did not, the fact he still needs the Immortal breaker implies time killer isn't enough to kill Noel, otherwise he'd just keep fighting, and this is the guy who willingly waited for nearly a century in the Edge to escape, so he has all the patience in the world to try and kill someone if he has the ability to do so in the first place.


The pocket dimension scan yeah that's Rachel's doing not Noel, however in the main story she literally creates the imagined landscape on her own without realizing it so this would still be an ability for her.


The argument that she's never shown using Izanami's abilities and is never suggested feels like cherry picking here, especially when you factor in Terumi absorbing Noel and due to that, he has the status of Successor of the azure and has her powers as a result, I don't see how the same can't apply for Noel having access to Izanami's power since she absorbed her into herself and becomes Saya.


Hakumen's Paralysis

This refute on Ragna being able to get over it ignores the context on how he's literally willing his entire body to finally move. Saying that he never have this effect on anyone else just means anyone else can resist his powers, especially when you factor in someone like Hazama, who's an azure grimoire himself and yet he can fight Hakumen just fine without freezing in place.


Celica's Abilities

The power bestowal refute I don't understand, her being near them is what causes this bestowal in the first place, which still qualifies with bestowing someone with a power, so how is this a debunk again?


So her power nullification is tied to anything magical related, neat, so something a lot of characters in fiction have, don't really see how this is a debunk, just more on it explains a certain weakness.


Kokonoe's Black Hole creation

This here just seems like massive cherry picking and asking for literally every single aspect of a black hole to be spelled out for folks, especially when Megaman is used as a poster child for black hole creation on the vs wiki and he has little to no elaboration on being able to warp space time or manipulate light. The move is flat out stated to create a black hole, therefore she can create a black hole, it's in the name so this comes off as being nitpicky for the sake of being nitpicky.


Terumi's Abilities

Teleportation not being a part of Terumi's set of abilities, and it only being for Phantom in terms of what Kokonoe's talking about makes no sense when you look at the clip being used here and notice that Celica is right there, but Phantom is still capable of teleporting despite Celica's existence. Plus we literally see Terumi teleport to the gates in the end of CF, so this argument is stupid as hell.


Telepathy not counting for Terumi because it's Ouroboros doing it, not Terumi is also a stupid argument to make when it's his main weapon that he uses all the time. This is the equivalent of saying Vergil from Devil May Cry is incapable of cutting through space and dimensions because Yamato is doing it and not him, and ignoring how he always has Yamato and uses it every time, so this is not a debunk, it just feels like padding for the sake of padding.


The precognition and cosmic awareness debunk makes no sense as a debunk when he literally has the power of Observation and is stated to Observe all possibilities. He even talks about observing each possibility when you beat every single Arcade mode, plus the recaps about Continuum Shift has them say he is aware of virtually every possibility imaginable, not that he used to be aware of every possibility imaginable, otherwise they would have described it that way. And again they use Jubei and Tager catching Terumi off guard, one of them literally has Terumi's kryptonite carrying with him so Terumi couldn't predict that, and the other consistently keeps up with Terumi all the time, so again not an argument to make unless proven he literally lost that ability in the first place.


The perception stuff also makes no sense when Tager literally says "what's going on, what did I see?" while seeing something that's completely different than what's literally in front of him, which is Hazama. Meaning Terumi was warping his senses to make him see something completely different than normal.


The infinite corridors thing claiming it’s only Nine who made it makes no sense when the context in this scene is that Nine's hatred of Terumi was creating all the shadows to constantly fight Hakumen and Trinity, something that fuels his entire existence in the first place says otherwise about the illusions being only a Nine thing. Even if you want to argue this was done specifically by Nine, the fact that Terumi's familiar with Relius for a long time and has been fully aware of the inner workings of Ishana on top of helping Nine make Ars Magus, the idea that Terumi himself has infinite corridors as a spell isn't far fetched given his experience in the matter.


The reactive evolution and resistance negation argument makes no sense as they basically said "Oh he doesn't have reactive evolution, he's just capable of developing a counter to it after observing it" which is literally textbook definition of reactive evolution as you're adapting to the abilities you're facing. As for the resistance negation, it claims it's based on misconceptions of the power of order, but it literally isn't when the power of order blog literally talks about the resistance to Phenomena Intervention as a thing the Power of Order can do, plus Kokonoe literally not just explains it to Jin but also elaborates in the same scene on how the power of order can fight off phenomena intervention. So Terumi adapting to an ability that grants resistance and developing a counter to said ability would mean he's able to bypass its defense easily, it's not that hard to grasp.


Relius' timestop

I can agree that this wouldn't be time stop due to how Relius describes it, though saying it would only be paralysis inducement isn't true when he's literally hardening space itself, so it's a paralysis spell via spatial hardening.


Izanami's Incorporeality

While the explanation on her page can use more work, the cosmology blog talks about how she's literally possessing other bodies in order to manifest in the world easily, and given how she's literal death itself, it makes sense.


The Black Beast's Abilities

The Disease Manipulation argument would help if not for one thing; the black beast is a general creature that is hardly different from any other forms of the black beast, plus the Union Virus not being referenced in Blazblue games isn't a relevant point when Seithr's so common that people just treat the threat of Seithr infecting your body as a common illness in the series. The Union virus was new due to it being in an era where Seithr didn't pollute the entire planet. Plus with how we see rabid animals due to the black beast's infection and they function very similarly to those infected with the union virus, it's not that hard to put two and two together.


Fate manipulation being flowery language isn't an argument when this is Kokonoe who's describing it. Plus Phase Shift describes this about the Black Beast.


  • "It could not be constrained within every man-defined system and theory. If any, it was as if the very concepts of system and theory were something to be destroyed. It was truly a being that was all about destruction."


So this being flowery language isn't an argument when it's capable of doing insane shit like this.


The power absorption refute makes no sense as well as it's making an assumption that it only absorbs Seithr, when we literally see Kuon lose her powers, and she's not using Seithr or drives as her form of power, just magic. So the argument that it's only useful against an Xblaze or blazblue character makes as much sense as saying naruto characters can't use chakra abilities against anyone outside of their verse since they don't use chakra, which flies in the face of how a versus debate normally goes when all of their abilities are taken into account regardless of how different their magic system is.


All in all, all of these docs are riddled heavily with so much misinformation and taking scenes out of context or just flat out not paying attention to the scene in question, and making an assumption that has no basis whatsoever and even just not accept reliable source of information and demand it to be repeated again in order for it to be validated when that's now how refuting statements work in the first place. As I've said numerous times here, the statements the characters make without visual proof needs to be refuted in some way shape or form with actual contradicting evidence, such as Kokonoe, Amane and Valkenhayn's comment, and in all of these instances; the characters with them that are knowledgeable do not remotely refute their points in the slightest, and given how these blogs have the creator make some comments about how other folks or websites are taking things out of context or lying, it's kind of ironic to say the least.


This was bugging me for a while and I wanted to just address this, and to make it clear, NO DO NOT HARASS THE PERSON WHO MADE THESE DOCS AT ALL, the whole point of this blog was to offer context for the feats that are supposedly taken out of context, and hopefully this gives some insight to the series as a whole.


Now while this covers mostly the debunks against what the VS Battle Wiki has for the franchise, some of you might be wondering where would I scale the series if I think most of the debunks aren’t legit? Well that’s for the next blog as I will be doing an in depth analysis on one of the most popular villains in the franchise, so stay tuned for that.



That's all I have to say on the matter, thank you for reading my college book level response to some docs about a fighting game series, and I will see you next time when Yuuki Terumi (and by extension BlazBlue as a whole) is fully analyzed.

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